Ravnos Lineage

This information has been collected by Daniel Guilkey, from the Revised CB and cross referenced it with LS 4, JbN, ...

The Ravnos Ante (who is referred to as Zapathasura) is said to have sired 5 times in the first century or two of his unlife. The speaker said that there may be more, but that they doubted it because all of the lineages that they were able to recover traced their roots back to those five.

1. The first was Black Mother. She was often mistaken for Kali, the Hindu goddess of death destruction and the end of the world. She was a renowned Prophetess and was famous for her ability to percieve all layers of reality. She later abandoned Zapathasura and his war so he in turn had her name stricken from all recordings. The Brahman, Phuri Dae, Phaedymite, Sybarite, and Yoyari jatis are all decended from her.

   (this next part - about Black Mother's new identity - was not actually told, I had to piece it together by cross referencing 2-3 sources. Don't worry about it being wrong, there is no way. If you want my evidence behind this - including sources - just let me know and I'll mail them too you)

   After Black Mother abandoned Zapathasura, she took the name Marizhavashti Kali "The Ghost" and waited for the arrival of Alexander the Great in India. Upon Alexander's arrival with his armies, Marizhavashti (a.k.a. Black Mother) embraced one of his soldiers and told the childe to "Go West", in which the soilder did and Marizhavashti followed him to Europe and eventually settled in Gaul.

   It turned out that the soilder was actually not a man at all, it was a woman masquerading as a soldier. The woman's name was Phaedyme (later the founder of the Phaedymites) and she eventually (after creating her line and all) settled in Gaul with her sire and began looking out for her.

   Marizhavashti developed her power base in Gaul and after the Romans conquered Gaul needed a way to ensure the continued existance of her control over the mortal affairs in her city. She embraced a man (who has been said to be everyone from Julius Ceaser - which according to CB Ventrue revised was NEVER a vampire - to Romulus himself) who was a high member of Caligula's rome and may have been a confidant of the Emperor.

   This man created Progeny and the line became the Sybarites (this took a few decades). It was then that Chandraputo (another childe of Zapathasura whose explanation I will give below) deliberately let his teachings filter into Gaul through the Kshatriyas jati (his decendants) in an attempt to bring some of the "rogue lineages" back into the fold.

   The Sybarites took the teachings of the Kshatriyas and perverted them (which basicly ended up being do whatever you want road). The founder (childe of Marizhavashti/Black Mother) began his belief that diablerie was a good thing and set out to do so to his sire.

   Phaedyme (and a number of the Phaedymites) who had also settled in Gaul protected Marizhavashti against her "brother" and his line. obviously she failed because he ended up getting to Marizhavashti and diablerizing her.

   The founder of the Sybarites eventually had a childe named Karmenita Yoyari. She didn't like the way the Sybarites did things and soon broke off and made her own Jati (which was similar to the Sybarites but more mellow). Her eldest childe Iago Castille was a pirate on the seas during the middle ages.

   One of Phaedyme's childer, a woman named Marcia Felicia Licinia traveled much during the dark ages chronicling her journey, and the many differnt types of Ravnos that she met. She was looking for her childe Hector (who was converted to the Phuri Dae way of thinking and later when Marcia found him, she disowned him).

2. The second childe was Rakshasa. He was said to have unmatched skill at deception. he was Zapathasura's scout for a time. But eventually disagreed with his sire's war and told him so. the two faught and Rakshasa barely escaped. He left and wound up turning into Zapathasura's 2nd greatest enemy (behind Ennoia). after leaving, he alegedly went west to Africa siring many childer as he went (never staying more than a decade with any one of them). The book says (CB Rav-R) that at least 4 North African lineages claim decent from a trickster figure with no name or home. who warned them to prepare for the awakening of his father (Zapathasura). the last evidence of his presence in africa is at least 3000 years old.

3. The third childe was Chandraputo (mentioned above) He was known as The General. He was the one who would lead the Ravnos into battle. He would coordinate his strategies with the Black Mother and was the only one of the five childer to stay loyal to his sire. He may have ruled over the mortal city-nation of Harappa until it went to was against the inhabitants of Mohenjo-Daro. The Kshatriyas jati claims decent from The General.

4. The fourth childe was Ravana. He was said to have bargained with true demons for power greater than Zapathasura could ever give him. he allegedly vanished from the world after making the deal. he later lead hundreds of asuratizayya to their death promising them glory and power. One account says he came to Zapathasura and offered him power beyond that which gods would give. He claimed he could walk in the sun and enjoy mortal delights. Zapathasura struck him, only to hit nothing. Ravana's laughter faded and Zapathasura pondered the meaning of the offer. shortly after that, he (Zapathasura) fell into his first prolonged torpor.

5. The fifth childe Ramessu sired the Vaisyas jati. the alexandrite jati also claims origin from him. he embraced solely from the merchant class. He also (in time) tired of fighting and eventually headed west and sired a line that knew nothing of Zapathasura. After his arrival in Egypt he took a large section from the Setite territory when they tried to cast him out. He was able to do this because the Setites were fighting with the local lupines at the time and didn't have the resources to fight both. He later created an "authentic" Egyptian court that lasted into the renaissance, (even though he went into "bouts of torpor").